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Chris
10-14-2008, 11:52 PM
for a couple of days.

So I am gonna see if I can handle the CIO method tonight.

I am gonn try it this way
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/parenting_tips/sleep/index.html


Children often have sleep problems during the first year of life, including trouble getting to sleep, waking up in the middle of the night and having irregular sleep patterns. Remember that there are no definite right or wrong ways to put your child to sleep and that if you and your baby are happy with your current routine then you should stick to it. However, it is not good if it is a struggle to put your child to bed, if he gets overly frustrated in the process, strongly resists being put to bed or if he is waking up so much that he or other family members end up not getting adequate sleep.
Newborns have irregular sleep patterns, but by two to three months of age, your child should be on a more regular schedule. It is important to provide a consistent routine for your child, including a bedtime routine, which consists of all of the things that you do to help get them ready for bed, and can include quite playtime, a last feeding, reading a book, taking a bath, changing their diaper, etc. This should also include developing good sleep associations, which are the things that your child associates with falling asleep, including falling asleep alone in their crib. It should not include falling asleep while nursing or drinking a bottle, sucking on a pacifier or being rocked, since if your child wakes up in the night, he will need those same conditions to go back to sleep.

By three to five months, the majority of babies are able to sleep for most of the night, but may wake up again in the middle of the night. The babies that have developed good sleep associations are able to go right back to sleep, while the ones with the wrong associations cry out. The best way to develop healthy sleeping habits is to have a good bedtime routine and to put your child into their crib while they are drowsy, but still awake, with conditions that they can re-establish for themselves if they wake up in the middle of the night.

To make this easier you may give your child a special stuffed animal, toy or blanket, or help them find their fingers to suck on when you put them to bed. Try to incorporate this ‘transitional object' into the bedtime routine (for example, have them hold their blanket while you are reading to them before bed). Avoid letting your child fall asleep with a bottle, since the milk or juice will coat their teeth all night and promote cavities or using a pacifier at bedtime, since if it falls out while they are sleeping, when they wake up they will cry out until it is replaced. The biggest mistake that most parents make is allowing themselves to become the ‘transitional object' with which child has learned to fall asleep.
"...even an infant or toddler who has never slept through the night can begin doing so within a few days with the right assistance from parents."
Richard Ferber, MD

more sleep books

If your baby has not learned the proper sleep associations by the time he is five to six months old and he is waking up one or more times during the night, there are ways to help your child learn to sleep through the night.

One popular method is that taught by Dr. Richard Ferber, which advocates that at bedtime you put your child in his bed while they are drowsy, but still awake, and help them learn how to fall asleep on their own.

If you don't feel comfortable with the Ferber 'cry-it-out' approach, there are other no-cry methods, like the one made popular by Elizabeth Pantley.

For the Ferber method, it is recommended that you start the training at a time when you can afford to lose some sleep for up to a week and that you be consistent during this time. If at any time during the training you give in and let your child fall asleep in your bed or while drinking a bottle, then you may have to start all over. Most children show improvement in a few days, and will be sleeping through the night in a week or two.

To begin, you will need to develop a bedtime routine that will end with you placing your child in his bed to fall asleep on his own (with his transition object). The Ferber method is a ‘progressive approach' in which you allow your child to ‘cry for gradually longer periods of time before returning to him briefly.' The first night, after placing your child in bed to fall asleep alone, you should leave the room and allow him to cry for about five minutes. If he is still crying after that time, you can return to his room to reassure him that you are still there. You can speak to him briefly and pat his back a few times, but avoid picking up or rocking your child. After two or three minutes you are to leave the room again (even if he is still crying). If your child continues to cry now for ten minutes, you can again return to his room briefly for reassurance, but be sure to leave after two or three minutes. If she is still crying after fifteen minutes you can return again, and the rest of the night wait for a maximum of fifteen minutes. Your child will probably fall asleep during one of these fifteen minute periods. If your child wakes up again during that first night, you can use the same method of letting him cry for five, ten, and then fifteen minutes. The next night you will start off by waiting for ten minutes and increasing by five minute intervals to a maximum of twenty minutes. Each night, you will increase the ‘First Wait' by five minutes. For example:


Chart on this page
http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/parenting_tips/sleep/index.html

It is important to realize that you are not hurting your child by letting him cry and that this method is much easier on him than a ‘cold turkey' method. The first few nights may be difficult, but your child will eventually learn that it isn't worth crying for twenty to thirty minutes if the only reward is that you are coming in for a few minutes. He will quickly learn to fall asleep on his own, which is an important step in his development.

*Carrie*
10-14-2008, 11:55 PM
Good luck Chris!

Chris
10-15-2008, 12:01 AM
Thanks. Now if only I can do it. Breaks my heart to hear him cry.

Jennifer
10-15-2008, 12:10 AM
You can do it Momma!!! Good luck! ;)

Kimberli
10-15-2008, 12:19 AM
It is tough but hang in there - you both need your rest!

BonBon
10-15-2008, 12:46 AM
Good luck Chris...

Chris
10-15-2008, 01:02 AM
Thanks guys. He just cried for 20 minutes when I layed him down and now he is out.
I went in at the 10 minute mark and it seemed to upset him more. Maybe I should not start at 10 minutes like the article says and wait 15 minutes the first time.

Katey
10-15-2008, 01:16 AM
Good luck Chris. Sounds like your right on.

Stacey
10-15-2008, 01:17 AM
I previously did the delay go in and check methogs with the girls and it seemed to make it worse. With Trevor I just put him down and gritted my teeth till he stopped crying. :pout: Now he goes down EASY PEASY 99% of the time. I also will not go to him if he wakes up unless it is after 2-3am.

Chris
10-15-2008, 01:34 AM
I think you are right Stacey. He woke up again and when I went in there it upset him more. I am gonna not go in the next time. How long do you let him cry before you end up going in?

Stacey
10-15-2008, 01:39 AM
Ummm well to start off with if I KNEW it was bedtime and he was tired I didn't (inital lay down for the night.) One night it was an hour :faint: before he stopped!!! During the middle of the night I'd do 20-30 min before I would go to him.

Chris
10-15-2008, 01:46 AM
Well wish me luck.


dh will only be gone a couple of nights so i hope we can get the worst of it out of the way by then,.

Stacey
10-15-2008, 01:48 AM
I HOPE so too Chris...with us it did get better everynight but he cried every night when I put him down for about 3 wks! He's STUBBORN!! Hopefully though you can get it to a managible point that your DH can tolerate it!!

Chris
10-15-2008, 01:51 AM
I told him I am going to buy him airplugs cause when he gets home I am not gonna stop. Or else I would have doen it for nothing.

And I told him no sleep for me equals no sex for him. so i think he is starting to see it my way.

Stacey
10-15-2008, 01:54 AM
:lmao4: I think that should get his attention!! hahahhahah STICK TO YOUR GUNS!! ahhaha


It's HARD and I HATE being forced to do CIO with the kids but it has to be done sometimes. Trevor still isn't a GREAT sleeper ALL NIGHT but it is FAR better than where we were 2 mos ago when we started all of this.

Chris
10-15-2008, 01:58 AM
I think it is great he is getting better.
Go Trevor:-)

Kimberli
10-15-2008, 02:02 AM
Glad it's going well so far Chris! Going in made it worse for Nicholas as well so I didn't and the longest he cried was 25 min the first night and then it was less and less with each night. Now we can tell his fussing cry and his "I'm not going to sleep so you might as well come get me cry" so we know to get him back up or not. ;)

Chris
10-15-2008, 02:04 AM
I hope I can get to that point too Kim.

Kimberli
10-15-2008, 02:10 AM
Now granted we still have the "I'm not going to sleep so you might as well come get me" cry about 2-3x/week these days and it takes a couple of tries to get him down for the night but at least he's sleeping! You'll get there this time, I have a feeling!

Amy
10-15-2008, 02:51 AM
I hope it goes well while your DH is gone Chris! Good luck!

Raquel
10-15-2008, 03:17 AM
good luck. i wish mine would cio. k i can have do it during the day cuz he will go to sleep h he just gets more pissed. i'm sure if i let him go 30 min he would but its hard. esp w/2 cuz one will fall asleep and then the other wakes him up or if they both cry they get each other going more.

Marissa
10-15-2008, 03:25 AM
Oh Chris I hope what the article says helps you out, I can only imagine hearing him cry and cry and cry it would also break my heart. I need to tell baby G to send you non sleeping babies some of his sleepy vibes :-)

natalie
10-15-2008, 12:09 PM
You can do it.

If you want, bring him over here for a few night and I will leave him in the basement. He can CIO all night and we would not know upstairs in our room. I have thought of it myself with Harley but I just waited it out and now she is 12 months, unless she is sick, she sleeps through so I dont have too. It is not the niciest way of doing things, but if I needed the sleep more, I would have done it.